Hi Kurt,
But if you mean the sound as it comes from line-out or to headphones... well, then "overall sound" actually is a result of individual voices (or combination of them) -it's the voices that make overall sound.
And if that's what you mean, then I tend to agree with you: if we forget fine details, then the overall sound impression didn't change much over the years (some call it a typical Yamaha sound). The thing is, most of the samples used for voices are the same as 20 years ago. That's nothing bad by itself.. I mean, a real saxophone sounds today the same as it did 20 years ago, right?
Sometimes we get blinded by S.Art, S.Art2, S.Art+, MegaVoice,... but that are not necessary new samples. Most of them are actually old samples, they're only assembled together in a different way (i.e. to make certain articulation possible) and different voice settings (EQ, reverb, cutoff, etc.) are applied. But in it's core, they still sound the same as 20 years ago.
And that's why I agree with you when you say "end result isn't worlds apart". The biggest advantage of buying newer keyboard, is that we have more possibilities to influence the end result -i.e. by using certain S.Art voice that we didn't have before, or combining three RH voices,.. or maybe new keyboard will finally have that bagpipe voice that we were looking for.
The problem however is, if we expected different overall sound... I think in this case, switching the brand is the only solution.
Bogdan
When you say "overall sound", do you mean as coming from speakers? If that's what you mean, the we shouldn't expect much to change here, because acoustics is mostly limited by keyboard casing (dimensions, shape and material).Mark, by sound I meant the overall sound, not individual voices. The overall sound of the SX720 to me sounds like a Yamaha keyboard has sounded for many years. I have been observing the lack of progress here for a while and it still surprises me.
But if you mean the sound as it comes from line-out or to headphones... well, then "overall sound" actually is a result of individual voices (or combination of them) -it's the voices that make overall sound.
And if that's what you mean, then I tend to agree with you: if we forget fine details, then the overall sound impression didn't change much over the years (some call it a typical Yamaha sound). The thing is, most of the samples used for voices are the same as 20 years ago. That's nothing bad by itself.. I mean, a real saxophone sounds today the same as it did 20 years ago, right?
Sometimes we get blinded by S.Art, S.Art2, S.Art+, MegaVoice,... but that are not necessary new samples. Most of them are actually old samples, they're only assembled together in a different way (i.e. to make certain articulation possible) and different voice settings (EQ, reverb, cutoff, etc.) are applied. But in it's core, they still sound the same as 20 years ago.
And that's why I agree with you when you say "end result isn't worlds apart". The biggest advantage of buying newer keyboard, is that we have more possibilities to influence the end result -i.e. by using certain S.Art voice that we didn't have before, or combining three RH voices,.. or maybe new keyboard will finally have that bagpipe voice that we were looking for.
The problem however is, if we expected different overall sound... I think in this case, switching the brand is the only solution.
Bogdan
Statistics: Posted by BogdanH — Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:53 am