Yamaha Montage and Montage M Forum • Re: AN-X mono analog sounds

The Filter articulation just isn't quite right.

IMO you are going to need Yamaha support to answer this question since it involves the internals of how legato is implemented. You can use the 'Contact Us' link at the bottom right of most Yamaha main pages to send a support email to Yamaha. I have found you a more likely to get a response if you send an actual example, that they can reproduce, that demonstrates the issue.
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I think the key question is whether each key press on the M triggers its own filter and amp envelopes for the new note REGARDLESS of the mono/poly/legato sitting. It is my understanding that it does.

If so that contrasts with the Nord as described on p34 of the Nord Stage 4 doc

In Mono mode both envelopes restart from the point in the attack phase
where the level is equal to the previous note, if the decay or release
phase has been entered. In Legato mode the envelopes do not move
to the attack phase once the decay point has been reached, as long as
one is playing legato

I don't thing the M's work the same way.

I set the AN-X part to Mono... and it's automatically "Legato" for the Filter and Amplifier. I don't see a means to change/address this.

Neither do I - using Mono pretty much means you automatically want legato.

In this case, I want to have the Filter retriggered on legato notes that follow the initial note (filter cutoff controlled subtly by velocity).

As far as I can tell that IS what it does. Each new note triggers its own filter and amp envelopes. Can you provide a small example showing it doesn't?

As is, if I strike the first note with a light velocity (darker), all following legato notes are dark.

I can't reproduce that.

On the M most of the 'legato' specific parameters are for adjusting Portamento and in XA control when using AWM2 so that the legato notes can actually use a different waveform (without the initial attack).

Since FM-X and AN-X create their own waveforms controlling their 'attack' is done directly by manipulating their own Filter/Amp ADSR parameters. And if those envelopes begin anew for the legato notes (as I suspect) they envelopes themselves have no knowledge of 'legato' mode - that determination is made BEFORE the envelopes are triggered.

The above is how it works based on my limited testing. Yamaha doesn't publish the internal decision flow.

Statistics: Posted by Douglas — Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:54 pm

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